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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.scottblogs.com/craigslist-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. You say &quot;flag them&quot; but the posts dissing them are also breaking the rules by &quot;discussing other posts&quot; look it up under flagging. Maybe I should flag those?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. You say &#8220;flag them&#8221; but the posts dissing them are also breaking the rules by &#8220;discussing other posts&#8221; look it up under flagging. Maybe I should flag those?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.scottblogs.com/craigslist-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 05:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say flag them like they do in the states</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say flag them like they do in the states</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Evolution.&quot; worrrrd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Evolution.&#8221; worrrrd.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottBlogs</title>
		<link>http://www.scottblogs.com/craigslist-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottBlogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob (Is that your real name? I only ask, cause when I want to be anonymous, I always call myself “Bob” :))

You are absolutely right, it is totally evolution. I agree 100% re eBay (I think Dave mentioned that too…). The whole “buy it now” thing on eBay is so frustrating, I definitely prefer the way eBay used to be.

I do not doubt that it is working for Central Builders, I agree with you there. I also agree that things evolve, but often, not for the better.

If Craigslist does evolve to be a commercial advertising platform, then someone will come along and take its place with the free non-commercial ads. Maybe I should follow Dave’s idea and create my own list too. “ScottBlogsList” and see what happens… sounds like a lot of work… maybe I will leave it to Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob (Is that your real name? I only ask, cause when I want to be anonymous, I always call myself “Bob” <img src='http://www.scottblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>You are absolutely right, it is totally evolution. I agree 100% re eBay (I think Dave mentioned that too…). The whole “buy it now” thing on eBay is so frustrating, I definitely prefer the way eBay used to be.</p>
<p>I do not doubt that it is working for Central Builders, I agree with you there. I also agree that things evolve, but often, not for the better.</p>
<p>If Craigslist does evolve to be a commercial advertising platform, then someone will come along and take its place with the free non-commercial ads. Maybe I should follow Dave’s idea and create my own list too. “ScottBlogsList” and see what happens… sounds like a lot of work… maybe I will leave it to Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.scottblogs.com/craigslist-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry boys, it called evolution. Things grow and change as the market decides. Look at ebay, it used to be a nice simple auction site, now it seems that 50% of its listings are from retailers with &quot;buy it now&quot; pricing with no option to bid on the items. This site will evolve in the same way. If you want changes, perhaps you should talk to the site operators.  It must be a good system for Central Builders, lots of people must take advantage of their ads otherwise I am sure they would not waste their time posting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry boys, it called evolution. Things grow and change as the market decides. Look at ebay, it used to be a nice simple auction site, now it seems that 50% of its listings are from retailers with &#8220;buy it now&#8221; pricing with no option to bid on the items. This site will evolve in the same way. If you want changes, perhaps you should talk to the site operators.  It must be a good system for Central Builders, lots of people must take advantage of their ads otherwise I am sure they would not waste their time posting them.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottBlogs</title>
		<link>http://www.scottblogs.com/craigslist-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottBlogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh good :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh good <img src='http://www.scottblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I voted for the seperate commercial section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I voted for the seperate commercial section.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottBlogs</title>
		<link>http://www.scottblogs.com/craigslist-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottBlogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin: There is no reason to be snappy. This is a friendly conversation. Nowhere did I, or anyone, say anything about rules being broken. Its not about rules and laws. Its about what is sensible.

Let&#039;s say tomorrow, as Dave said, walmart, canadian tire, and all the retail outlets flooded craigslist with ad posts - would you be happy about this? Would you spend the time to filter them all out? Perhaps you would. Perhaps you would say &quot;this is wonderful, I am so happy to see all these extra advertisments, thank god for free speach&quot;. Out of 25 people so far who have voted in my poll, only 1 person has voted &quot;yes&quot;, that commercial ads should be permitted - I suspect that &quot;yes&quot; came from you. 

Dave: I agree with Austin, Start your own site, I&#039;ll come and use it.

Its not a question about what the rules permit, but about what is sensible, and to me, and at least some people who have commented here, posting free ads for new merchandise on a used, non-retail platform, does not seem sensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin: There is no reason to be snappy. This is a friendly conversation. Nowhere did I, or anyone, say anything about rules being broken. Its not about rules and laws. Its about what is sensible.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say tomorrow, as Dave said, walmart, canadian tire, and all the retail outlets flooded craigslist with ad posts &#8211; would you be happy about this? Would you spend the time to filter them all out? Perhaps you would. Perhaps you would say &#8220;this is wonderful, I am so happy to see all these extra advertisments, thank god for free speach&#8221;. Out of 25 people so far who have voted in my poll, only 1 person has voted &#8220;yes&#8221;, that commercial ads should be permitted &#8211; I suspect that &#8220;yes&#8221; came from you. </p>
<p>Dave: I agree with Austin, Start your own site, I&#8217;ll come and use it.</p>
<p>Its not a question about what the rules permit, but about what is sensible, and to me, and at least some people who have commented here, posting free ads for new merchandise on a used, non-retail platform, does not seem sensible.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott: What YOU should think about is that you and others are trying to dictate the terms of a site that has clearly marked rules that don&#039;t seem to have been compromised. Dave: Perhaps you SHOULD start your own site. After all that is your perogative. What it boils down to is, if you don&#039;t like what you are seeing, then don&#039;t look at it. I firmly believe in a free society where choice (within the bounds of legality)is
a wonderful privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott: What YOU should think about is that you and others are trying to dictate the terms of a site that has clearly marked rules that don&#8217;t seem to have been compromised. Dave: Perhaps you SHOULD start your own site. After all that is your perogative. What it boils down to is, if you don&#8217;t like what you are seeing, then don&#8217;t look at it. I firmly believe in a free society where choice (within the bounds of legality)is<br />
a wonderful privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottBlogs</title>
		<link>http://www.scottblogs.com/craigslist-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottBlogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Look at the comment action.

I am hesitant to post a comment to my own blog, but wanted to say thanks to those voicing their opinions. While I don&#039;t agree with all of them, I think its great to get the full range of opinions out there. Here are my thoughts thus far:

Mark: Spam is not limited to email, Spam by definition is essentially flooding the internet with multiple copies of the same message, unwanted messages, etc. That said, you are partially right by citing the Craigslist definition. Now, when it comes to filtering out &quot;spam&quot; posts, these commercial ads are likely not considered to be miss-use by Craiglist - hence they remain online. That said, just because Craigslist allows it, it does not make it good for their users, as if users are annoyed, they will stop using the site. Perhaps Craigslist needs to reconsider their rules?

Joel: I for the most part agree with you. If they didn&#039;t post so many ads, nobody would really care. Its the numbers that I think bug most of the people that are bothered by this.

KM: I agree, I also feel this is not the right place for their ads, and yes, they are easy to by-pass. They do have fliers, but I think they could definitely use a website, surprised they don&#039;t have one (and the corporate Home Hardware site kinda sucks) (Interestingly enough, while looking to see if I Could find their site, I found that they are posting ads on another local classified site: http://www.usedcourtenaycomox.com/classified-ad/8695501)

Austin: I am not sure that anyone is really whining - well, perhaps some are, but more discussing this. Yes, some retailers may have better deals, but its apples &amp; oranges. If I am looking for a used anything, then I don&#039;t really want to see ads for something new. It&#039;s almost like if I went to a car dealership and wanted to buy a 2000 Mazda, then the salesman throws a 2009 in my face. It&#039;s just not what I&#039;m there to see.  (not the best analogy I know).  I think the whole thing comes down to principle. This single miss-use is trivial, who cares really. But if it keeps going on, the miss-use from others will grow, until it becomes common place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Look at the comment action.</p>
<p>I am hesitant to post a comment to my own blog, but wanted to say thanks to those voicing their opinions. While I don&#8217;t agree with all of them, I think its great to get the full range of opinions out there. Here are my thoughts thus far:</p>
<p>Mark: Spam is not limited to email, Spam by definition is essentially flooding the internet with multiple copies of the same message, unwanted messages, etc. That said, you are partially right by citing the Craigslist definition. Now, when it comes to filtering out &#8220;spam&#8221; posts, these commercial ads are likely not considered to be miss-use by Craiglist &#8211; hence they remain online. That said, just because Craigslist allows it, it does not make it good for their users, as if users are annoyed, they will stop using the site. Perhaps Craigslist needs to reconsider their rules?</p>
<p>Joel: I for the most part agree with you. If they didn&#8217;t post so many ads, nobody would really care. Its the numbers that I think bug most of the people that are bothered by this.</p>
<p>KM: I agree, I also feel this is not the right place for their ads, and yes, they are easy to by-pass. They do have fliers, but I think they could definitely use a website, surprised they don&#8217;t have one (and the corporate Home Hardware site kinda sucks) (Interestingly enough, while looking to see if I Could find their site, I found that they are posting ads on another local classified site: <a href="http://www.usedcourtenaycomox.com/classified-ad/8695501)" rel="nofollow">http://www.usedcourtenaycomox.com/classified-ad/8695501)</a></p>
<p>Austin: I am not sure that anyone is really whining &#8211; well, perhaps some are, but more discussing this. Yes, some retailers may have better deals, but its apples &amp; oranges. If I am looking for a used anything, then I don&#8217;t really want to see ads for something new. It&#8217;s almost like if I went to a car dealership and wanted to buy a 2000 Mazda, then the salesman throws a 2009 in my face. It&#8217;s just not what I&#8217;m there to see.  (not the best analogy I know).  I think the whole thing comes down to principle. This single miss-use is trivial, who cares really. But if it keeps going on, the miss-use from others will grow, until it becomes common place.</p>
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